Derrick Lambert

[ThunderHead Pits]

Another thing.... I'm still bothered that you keep stalking me!!! Why did you make no mention of that in your reply???

Last i remembered we both agreed to keep each others names out of our mouths and then I hop on here like two days ago to see that your still talking trash and lurking around my websites, web pages, blogs and hell even talking to people in our city to get the 411 on me!!

What gives? Do you think I have a cute ass or something??

Do you Like guys Derrick Lambert from Romney Indiana, 765-430-7935 or am I just the one exception that does it for you??

LEAVE ME ALONE YOU SICK f*gOT!!! STOP STALKING ME!!!!!!

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Too funny, you keep calling me fat.....isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? I'm not going to fight you, for one, I'd kill your tubby ass, and for two, I'm more of a man than you are and just turn the other cheek.

[Fabian]

Check this out both Derrick and Kevin both you guys need 2 meet up somewhere and settle this nuts but in tha meantime kevin don't u dare bring me into this nuts!! I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT DERRICK HUNG PAPPERS SO YOU CAN QUIT TRYING TO IMPLY THAT I TOLD YOU!! KEEP ME OUT OF THIS nuts!! I'M IN IT FOR THE LOVE OF THA DOG!! THAT'S IT!! AND WHERE I COME FROM WE SETTLE OUR nuts IN THA STREET NOT ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!!

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you're right fabian, but i'm not going to fight his ass, because if I do, I become the low life scum that bsl advocates talk about. When i tried to squash this a while back, he took offense to me asking about his new female, because he told me she was 100%, but when he told me her pedigree it had Cairo and Monster G in it, which clearly isn't 100% gottiline, that's hows come we're fighting again, i tried to be the bigger man, but it bit me in the butt, now if he wants to bury the hatchet i'm cool with it, otherwise, i'm just gonna keep my mouth shut becuase that's all he wants is to fight.

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And furthermore, if those of us around these parts united we could take over the mid-west. As much as I hate to admit it, Kevin does know a thing or two about marketing, and with Fabian's and I's connections, and my genetics mixing and matching knowledge we could be producing some of the best fire in the U.S.! Either way, this is a public apology to Kevin @ Thunder head, I was wrong for some of the things I said, I had no right to say anything about you and your wife or whatever's going on there. But you also had no right to accuse me of hanging papers, if it's one thing I'm not, it's dishonest in my breeding. I can only be as honest as the person who sold me the dog and what papers he gave to me. I said publicly once before that I can almost guarantee Syd's papers were hung buy who bred her. I found out that some of the dogs in the pedigree were owned by a guy who's been banned by the adba on more than one occasion for hanging papers and for dog fighting. And besides that, Kevin, why are you on a game bred website, when clearly you are into the bully stuff just like I am? I'm through pregnant doging and arguing over childish things, especially dogs and breeding, so once again I extend my hand in apology, and don't be so quick to judge my actions as I don't like to see people taken advantage of, and if a person is told they are buying a 100% bloodline dog and the pedigree clearly states that it isn't, i'm gonna question it. That was my motives before you blew off the handle at me accusing me of being jelous and other BS. If you dont want to accept my apology, that's fine too, but I'm squashing my half of the beef right here and now!

[Fabian]

;D See that's what i'm talking about Derrick!!! They aint ready for tha Midwest!!!!!!

[ThunderHead Pits]

Wow! I am sure glad i read both of your postings before I sent this reply!

But I still must say this....

ONCE & FOR ALL!!! My female does have Cairo in her pedigree, but it's not up front in the first three generations! Now that I have said that in front of the whole world, Of course I got upset about your comments over her, it sounded as if though you were trying to make me look dumb by making it sound as if Cairo was her daddy or something!


DERRICK WROTE
And furthermore, if those of us around these parts united we could take over the mid-west. As much as I hate to admit it, Kevin does know a thing or two about marketing, and with Fabian's and I's connections, and my genetics mixing and matching knowledge we could be producing some of the best fire in the U.S.!

d**n Derrick, if I didn't know you better, that almost sounded like an apology! Oh nuts, wait a minute... It was!!! - Your forgot to mention however if I may say so myself... I'm good with websites!

I will say that its probably the smartest and most sensible thing I have ever heard you say!

Derrick, the main thing that makes me mad about you is that you're a little insensitive sometimes dude. You kinda say what's ever on your mind & you never sugar coat anything... Meaning, you don't really stop to think if what you're saying might offend who you're saying it to!

At times NOT sugar coating something is a good thing, but never doing it gives you a strong personality and makes things appear as though your bad mouthing someone.

Of course I am willing to forget this crap.... I'll say it in front of the whole world = That's why I sent you that personal e-mail last night. This Crap is nuts Derrick!


This isn't a drug war man! This City is more than Big enough for both of us.... All three of us including Fabian! - Can't leave you out Bro! I should have been born Mexican, but for now Blaxican will have to do!



Fabian... As for you thinking I was implying that you told me about the paper hanging with Sidney..... Um, I don't remember mentioning your name in these messages man... Go back & read them again!

Well d**n, I am just completely blown away! I would have to say all apologies accepted & i offer my apologies too! But for the record, I never bad mouthed your dogs! I'm not stupid, they're good lookin dogs!

Derrick: What game website are you talking about??? because you're right I do like the bully breeds!

I'll tell you what man... I'm even adding your link to my website. I'm planning on getting a dog webz website with Sassy's pups if the pregnancy took!

Heck, I'll even hook you up on my 10% discount @ work if you ever need to buy some dog kennels. But it will cost you two pups back and a picture! lol. just kidding.


You got my word man. No more trash talking! i'll send people your way when I can and this nuts is done!

BTW Congrats on your last litter (pup), that was a fine lookin specimen.

[Derrick]

You're right, I don't sugar coat things. Mainly because I don't want people to sugar coat things on me, tell me straight up or don't tell me at all is my motto! As far as game sites go, this message board right here in dedicated to gamebred dogs, why do you think I caught soo much hell on here to start with, bully haters were stirring up crap, and I'm not going to stand around and let people talk crap about the dogs I love. Idiots talking like they wanna fight their dog against mine, cull them out they say, I don't fight my dogs, nor are any of my dogs aggressive to the point to fight to the death. They'll squabble over food now and then, but that's it. Princess however is a different story, she's fine with adult males, but with pups(that aren't hers) and adult females she's like a maniac, that's why she's kept away from the other dogs and stays in the house 99.9% of the time! and with your new female, even though Cairo isn't within 3 gens, if you breed her to a heavy cairo male, you'd be surprised how much her pups will look edge instead of gotty. Just because it's a lil ways back don't mean it's dormant and won't pop back out when bred right!

[ThunderHead Pits]

As for my newest female, her name is Derringer. Cairo is like 4 generations back I think!

I am very excited about her first breeding. I definitely am wanting to keep first pick off of that breeding. I am hoping that the first pick best pick will be a male because I am wanting to keep first pick preferably female off of Sassy's current breeding!

See my website, the male I locked Sassy with is on the breedings page! I agree with you, I finally got her bred right this time! He is a very stocky male, 100% Edge and shorter than she is!

As for Derringer, I considered breeding her to Hydro. But I really want to get away from that GenghisKon blood. Even if Hydro is short, I am afraid he will carry that tall gene.

As for Derringer, she is still under 15" tall @ 8 months old and her chest is nearly 13" wide! She is built like a cement block... Not exaggerating either! The only bad thing about her is that her head is a little on the small side, and her hind legs are a bit taller than her front. Her pics on my website are NOT updated, and you can ask Fabian, they do her NO justice!

Her feet are fine and her tail is fine. She has a nice length body and is already showing signs of muscle forming in her shoulders!

I would love to lock her with a male that could add some head size to her, without taking away from her chest size or her shortness. She is due to be coming into her 2nd heat around mid Sept.


As for the comment on Princess earlier, I apologize, Josh is actually the one that came over to my house telling me that you got into trouble with Steve I think it was? and that he took her back from you permanently.

This is going to sound strange, But I will admit, you do know how to match your breedings! If you had any pointers for a stud with Derringer, I am all ears!

[Fabian]

Aww how sweet u 2 finally made up!!..lol naw just kidding man why is having cairo on a ped a bad thing? nuts cairo is tha man!! Yeah derringer 's got some potential if she was bred 2 tha right dog that would put a head on those pups they would look great! I just hope she is being well fed so she can reach that potential that she has !! Derringer is probably as tall as damien but not nearly as thick!!

[ThunderHead Pits]

As for the Cairo thing, it's just that Derringer is "supposed" to be 100% Gotti, by industry standards if you will. I know, I say there isn't really any such thing as 100% Gotti line.... At least not with Juan Gotti & his first few descendants anyway. But the people say there is, and according to the people her pedigree would indicate that she is 100% Gotti Line.

Now with Cairo being anywhere within the first three generations would indicate that she would be only about 75% Gotti line. If Cairo would be in her fourth generation, she would be only about 90+% Gotti line. If he were 5 generations she would be 100% Gotti line. However if Cairo were to be in the fourth generation, and Derringer was bred to a 100% Gotti line stud, then without doubt any pup she produced would indeed be 100% Gotti line.

I do believe Cairo is four generations back. Which would indicate she could be NO less than 90% Gotti line, which some people will still call 100% Gotti line for sake of argument. This also means like mentioned a second ago, if Derringer is bred to a 100% Gotti Line male, we will have some 100% Gotti line pups.


I believe I got those statistics and percentage explanations correct! IS that all correct to your knowledge Derrick?

[Derrick]

For the sake of argument, she's as close to 100% as you can get without being 100% if that makes any sense? As far as advertising her goes, don't advertise her as 100%, just advertise her as being Gottiline and nothing more. Since most breeders who know anything about breeding and genetics always look at 4 generations and not 3, that way to those it really matters to will see what's back there, but not really care because the ones that aren't gottiline are still major hitters in the bully world. But the sad fact is that if you want to add head size to your female, you're gonna have to go either 50/50 with her or 100% Edge because edge dogs are the ones known for head production. I wouldn't go with Hydro, i've seen him in person and he's awesome, but he's standing at like 17-18 inches, and most GK dogs stand above 20, so the genes are there to make your pups tall and lanky and that's a risk I wouldn't take. That's why I sold Dolce, that white female off of Legend I had, she had a knock out pedigree, but she herself was too tall for my preferences. Breeding her wouldn't have been for my own production and I didn't want to breed something that I wouldn't keep a pup off of! The blood to look for when you look for a stud is Dozer X Daisy and Paco blood, that should match up real nice with ur girl, D X D will keep a nice body on the pups, and the Paco blood should put some nice lil noggins on the pups.

[ThunderHead Pits]

I appreciate the input Derrick. I will keep that info in mind.

I am starting to consider my option now so that I'm not running around at the last minute. The number of sassy's pups will largly play a role in my ability to pay stud fee up front.

If you have any suggestions, I am all ears.

Another thing, If your really sincere about squashing this stuff, I would like to get together with you sometime soon and talk business. if you're not ready for that just yet, let me know!

- kevin

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It's not that I'm not ready, but my ole lady is very good at holding long grudges, and if she knew we were speaking to each other in a civilized manner she'd blow her top, and I don't want to have to deal with that. So if need be we can chat it up on the phone sometime, I work nights now, so if you wanna chat, let me know on here and I will give you a call.....i kinda feel like i'm cheating on her! LOL

[ThunderHead Pits]

Man do I ever understand that completely!

I said some real rotten Sh*t. I know that. I'm surprised you're even talking to me. I wouldn't blame her if she never wanted to see my face again! It's all good.

You definitely have to keep this misses happy. If she ain't happy, you're not happy!

BTW, I work with an old friend of yours... Remember Brandon? Tall skinny Hill Jack form Caterpillar? If that don't ring a bell, this will: hes the real loud & obnoxious guy! Yeah, that guy!

Hey we're currently having a sell on on 6'X6' Kennels. I can get a complete kennel with gate for about $189.00 right now. Then with my discount you can take another $20.00 off of that, so before tax you're looking at about $169.00. Let me know if you're interested.

I also know a black guy that is looking for a good blue stud. I know how (You know who) feels about dealing dogs with black guys, but I wasn't sure about your take on it.

He seems to know a little bit about them and there bloodlines, so he might pay what it's worth.

He's wanting a blue stud for his pregnant dog, preferably something with a strong Gotti back ground.

let me know, and I can get you two in touch.

He's wanting a blue stud