I do not know about all that drama but I do know you are wrong on this issue. You offer no real evidence as to why you believe the Tri-Color or Black and tan markings prove that a APBT is not pure bred if he has those colors or markings. Yes you are intitled to your own opinion. Hold tight to that right because thats all you have going for you in this debate. I looked up some more evidence to provide for you. You can either admit you were wrong on this one or remain an ignorant breeder producing sub par dogs. I love these dogs to death and do not like talking badly about any dog in and of itself. Im sure they are wonderful pets but as far as being quality bred dogs go they fall short;way short. Here is some further information from reputable sources that you can choose to ignore once again.
Here is an excerpt from the Encyclopædia Britannica explaining Pit Bull Terrier: Breed of terrier developed in 19th-century England for fighting other dogs in pits. The breed
was created by crossing the bulldog, then a longer legged and more agile dog, with a terrier,
possibly the fox terrier or one of the old breeds known as the white English and the
black-and-tan terriers. Once known by such names as bull-and-terrier, half and half, and pit
bull terrier.
Thunder Head if you have not figured out by now that the Black and Tan terrior is where the genes(DNA) for this Color and pattern came from than you are blind to truth.FURTHER EVIDENCE AND REASON:
A dog needs to inherit two copies of the tan-point gene to be a black & tan. If a pup inherits one copy of the tan-point gene and one copy of the dominant yellow gene, which causes a red or buckskin coloration, then the dog will be red or buckskin, not black and tan. If the dog inherits one copy of the tan-point gene and one of the dominant black gene, the result will be a solid black dog. Because of the recessive nature of the tan-point gene, it can actually remain hidden in the gene pool for many generations without expressing itself. In the case of our breed (where this is not a common color) this is what often happens, but it is important to realize that when the tan-point pattern does pop up it is not some new color mutation that appeared out of nowhere, but rather the manifestation of a gene that has been present in this breed all throughout the known history of the American Pit Bull Terrier.
Though it is impossible to say for sure where the coloration originated, our best guess would be that it came from some sort of terrier blood that was introduced many, many years ago, probably during the early formation of the breed in the British Isles.Actually, part of the reason the color is uncommon is that there has been a distinct prejudice against it by many people, either because they feel it is not a typical Pit Bull color, or even actually thought it was the result of a mixed breeding.
The latter reason shows an ignorance of basic genetic principles, because the gene is recessive, there is no way you could breed a Rottweiler or a Doberman or Manchester Terrier to a Pit Bull and get puppies with the tan-point markings unless the Pit Bull was carrying the tan-point gene too. If in fact the black and tan color was not present in the APBT gene pool, you would have to breed to a dog of another tan-point breed, and then breed two offspring from such a breeding back together to get black & tan dogs, in the first generation you would get no tan-pointed offspring.The tan point gene does not actually create a black & tan animal, the gene itself does not produce any color but rather a pattern of a solid color with light-colored 'points'. These 'points' always appear in specific places but the actual size and distribution of them is somewhat variable. The exact coloration that is produced by the tan-point gene is dependant on the color genes present at other loci, for instance if the pigmentation is black, the result will be a black & tan, but if the dog's pigmentation is chocolate or blue then the pattern would produce a chocolate & tan or a blue & tan, respectively. A few of the possible tan-point variations seen include the following:
Black & Tan
A classic black & tan. This particular dog also has white markings -- the black, tan & white combination is also known as 'tricolor'.
Chocolate & Tan
When the tan-point pattern is coupled with red/red nose (chocolate) the result is chocolate & tan.
Black & Buckskin
When combined with buckskin instead of red, the pattern creates a pattern of much lighter points; with extremely pale buckskins the coloration might even be mistaken for black & white at first glance.
Black & Tan Ancestors of the modern APBT
I ran the following query on our CompuPed database of APBTs (30,200 dogs at this point) and below is a listing of tan-point marked dogs in our CompuPed database, not including our own dogs or dogs from our breeding program. Some of these dogs go as far back as the 1920s. One significant dog in this list is Kinard's Buck who was the grand sire of Long's Baby and Long's Tuffy who in turn were the dams of such dogs as Midnight Cowboy, Chivo, Stomper, etc. Another very important one would be Bruce's Jerry, who was the sire of such important dogs as Corvino's Gimp and Corvino's Shorty who can be found many, many times in the pedigrees of almost any modern-day APBT
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BLACKWELL'S CH. BANKRUPT {F} Black & Tan S> SISK'S HEAD {M}
D> AARONS' MIDNIGHT {F}
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>> BROWNLOW'S ANNIE {F} Red & Tan 01-26-1966
S> BROWNLOW'S TOMBSTONE {M}
D> BROWNLOW'S PENNY {F}
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BRUCE'S JERRY {M} Black & Tan S> BRUCE'S TURK (TUDOR'S/FEELY'S) {M}
D> BRUCE'S LADY LOU {F}
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BUDDY ANDERSON'S CH. TROUBLE {M} Black & Tan S> ~Unknown Sire {M}
D> ~Unknown Dam {F}
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CLARK'S CHANCE {M} Black & Tan S> CLARK'S TRAMP'S BOY {M}
D> ARMITAGE'S ROSE {F}
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COLBY'S BLACK PETE {M} Black & Tan S> Not Indicated...
D> Not Indicated...
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COLBY'S DINAH {F} Black & Tan S> COLBY'S ROGER {M}
D> COLBY'S YUM {F}
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COLBY'S SNUKEY {F} Black & Tan S> Not Indicated...
D> Not Indicated...
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HAMMONDS' TEDDY (LOCKJAW) {M} 35100-13 Black & Tan S> HAMMONDS' NINO (CHAMBLESS') {M} 9600-06
D> HAMMONDS' PINKY {F} 7800-04
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HEIKKILA'S ROUTER {M} 62800-22 Black & Tan 08-29-1980 S> HARRIS' ELI III ROM {M} 8100-73 Black
D> HEIKKILA'S CYBELLE {F} 43100-55
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HEINZL'S BURMA {F} Black & Tan S> COLBY'S TINKER (HEINZL'S) {M} UKC 312-369/407-5 Brindle/Wht mrkgs 04-21-1945
D> COLBY'S SCARLET (HEINZL'S) {F} 395-5/UKC 288-495 Red 08-07-1943
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HODGES' CH. BRUTE {M} Black & Tan S> RAMSEY'S BOSS {M}
D> RAMSEY'S CHERRY {F}
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INTER CITY'S CH. MIKE {M} Black & Tan S> KING LIMEY'S NELIS ROM {M}
D> AL'S LITTLE RED {F}
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KINARD'S BLACK & TAN BUCK (MOSSBURG'S) {M} Black & Tan S> HUMPHREY'S FURY {M}
D> MOSSBURG'S DUSTY {F}
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MR. K.'S CH. SEEKER {M} Black & Tan S> MR. K.'S TEX ROM {M}
D> MR. K'S BUP ROM {F}
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OSWALD'S LARAMIE {M} Black & Tan S> SHEPHERD'S MR. BEAU {M} 12500-60
D> SHEPHERD'S CORKY {F} 12600-99
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>> OTTER'S CH. TONKA BEAR ROM {M} 7900B-54 Choc/Tan/Red nose 12-28-1984
S> ANDERSON'S CH. TONKA {M} 27200-94 Red/Red nose 12-04-1975
D> WILLIAMS' ROBIN {F} 91200A-37 Red/Red nose
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>> PATRICK'S DOUBLE T TWISTER {M} Red & Tan
S> ANDERSON'S CH. TONKA {M} 27200-94 Red/Red nose 12-04-1975
D> PATRICK'S SANDY {F}
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RFC & HATTON'S CH. JENNY {F} Black & Tan S> MILEY'S WRINKLES {M}
D> MILEY'S SCABS {F}
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ROCCA'S CH. TANYA {F} Black & Tan S> APACHE HOSS BOSS {M}
D> THOMPSON'S TEMPEST {F}
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>> SAINDON'S "CH" BLACK JACK BRODIE {M} Red & Tan
S> SOUTHWIND'S RED TYPHOON {M} Red/Red nose
D> SOUTHWIND'S "ACE" NATASHA {F} Red/Red nose
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SHEPHARD'S BLACK & TAN {M} Black & Tan
S> COLBY'S BLACK PETE {M} Black & Tan D> COLBY'S MIZERY {F} Brindle
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SORRELLS' AZUMA {M} Black & Tan S> SORRELLS' "CH" SAILOR {M} 22300D-67 Buckskin
D> SORRELLS' MOON RAY {F}
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SORRELLS' CRAZY EYES {M} Black & Tan S> SORRELLS' "CH" SAILOR {M} 22300D-67 Buckskin
D> SORRELLS' HIPPIE CHICK {F}
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>> STARK'S TAWNEE {F} 93600D-19 Red & Tan/Red nose 06-06-1990
S> GONZALES' NO REGRETS {M} 55000D-96 Blk.Brindle
D> MICKEL'S SWEET PEA {F} 48600D-50 Red/Red nose
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STEINHOFF'S GRAY WOLF {M} Black & Tan S> DOUCET'S CHESTER THE MOLESTER {M} 66000-23
D> FINN'S MBC SCANDAL {F}
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>> TUDOR'S BLACK DEMON {M} Black/Brdl mrkgs
S> TRICE'S TIM {M}
D> TRICE'S BLACKIE (TUDOR'S) {F} Black
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>> WHITE'S GINGER {F} 12600D-78 Black & Brindle 09-06-1986
S> WATSON'S GRANT {M} 32900-40
D> WHITE'S DOLLY {F} 37900B-47
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>> WILLIAMS' "CH" DILLINGER {M} Red & Tan/Red nose 12-28-1984
S> ANDERSON'S CH. TONKA {M} 27200-94 Red/Red nose 12-04-1975
D> WILLIAMS' ROBIN {F} 91200A-37 Red/Red nose
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>> WILLIE POWELL'S CH. KOJACK {M} Black & Tan
S> KOSEC'S REBEL {M} Red/Red nose
D> JOSH HILL'S LADY {F} Red/Red nose
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT COLBY'S BLACK PETE WAS INDEED A bLACK AND TAN PURE BRED GAME APBTIf you are interested in seeing more visual aids and information, visit www.apbtconformation.com/On the subject of coat colors, this breed comes in a wide palette of them. There are various shades of brindle (that beautiful, striped pattern), there is black, blue, red, fawn (aka buckskin or tan), white, piebald (white with large spots of color), smut, seal, brown, chocolate (or liver), blue fawn, tricolor, black & tan, so on and so forth. No one color is any more valuable than another!