GAMENESS IS THE TRUE BLOOD
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Post by GAMENESS IS THE TRUE BLOOD on Mar 25, 2008 5:27:01 GMT -5
You will not answer my questions because they would show the weakness of your arguments and at the same time reveal your true character. Not to mention display your inhumane ignorance and lack of knowledge of the breed as a whole. If you had thoroughly read my previous post you would not have made a fool of your self by quoting me out of context. This is what I said with respect to my dogs previous wins in the pit: I would like to say that my UKC Game bred APBT is a legit match dog. He was bred for fighting and has been fought twice and won both to the death before he was a year and half old. I bought my dog from the wife of a man who got locked up for murder. I did not fight my dog to be clear he bred and fought him. The Sire and Dame are both undefeated and his father has 4 kills. If you are under the assumption that The Registry of Merit, SDR, ADBA are the only organizations that have fighting dogs than you are ignorant to the scene. Is UFC the only mixed martial arts organization? The under ground dog fighting scene is alive and well out here and sunny southern California and they prefer UKC dogs. All of you game breds die hards can agree all you want on this issue. You can repeat your self all you want. You can talk about what a "Real Pit Bull" is all you want. You can talk about maintaing the legacy all you want. You can do all of the above but what you cant do is prove your opinions noble. At the end of the day you and I will always disagree. I srongly disagree with dog fighting. I respect and admire the dog men of the past and pay them their dues. I realize that the time period in which they lived was a different era in which dog fighting was acceptable. However we now live in a more advanced and humane era in which most would agree that Dog fighting is inhumane and unethical not to mention illegal. I choose to breed pure bred APBT's for more postive purposes like agility,weight pull,confirmation,search and rescue etc. not dog fighting. You either fight your dogs and or condone the practice of dog fighting. Some how you find this noble. The truth of the matter is that you put your dogs lives on the line for your own personal enjoyment and profit. Call it what you like but that is what you are doing. You are obviously ok with dogs spilling blood for your own gain. Having said that, understand this; This is a battle of wills. Your dogs and you will be the losers in this fight. In closing, Calhoun, Red Neck or any of you Game bred Fans I dare you to answer all the questions I have posted in previous post. I know you will not. man, of all the post that i read yours is the most longest,whiniest and most difficult to understand your saying that you disapprove "practicing" and yet you force to your readers that your "UKC" is a gamebred... L O L no wonder you and getin respect here,talkin about gameness and nuts just my 2 cents @ G nice stocks, now those are indeed "PIT"bulldogs much respect.. DEAD GAME 4 LYF
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Post by orourkebloodlines on Mar 25, 2008 13:26:38 GMT -5
Ha. Wow are all you game bred fans that ignorant? Sorry if my "most longest,whiniest" post are difficult for you to understand. Who needs facts,evidence and logical conclusions not to mention humane ethics and integrity when you argue a point? Not you fellas All them big long post and fancy words got ya tripped up huh? I apologize. You make me laugh. The truth of the matter is that you fellas do not have a d**n thing to say worth value because their is no logical argument you can make to support dog fighting. If so, give it a try. What would be your justifications for fighting dogs or supporting or condoning it? Why do you think that it is a noble legacy that you are maintaining? Man I am arguing with about 4 of you boys and you just cant hang with me. Between the four of you I would think you could come up with a strong argument to support your case and your opinions. You fellas are just out right ignorant and lame.
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Post by G on Mar 25, 2008 17:12:08 GMT -5
Ha. Wow are all you game bred fans that ignorant? Sorry if my "most longest,whiniest" post are difficult for you to understand. Who needs facts,evidence and logical conclusions not to mention humane ethics and integrity when you argue a point? Not you fellas All them big long post and fancy words got ya tripped up huh? I apologize. You make me laugh. The truth of the matter is that you fellas do not have a d**n thing to say worth value because their is no logical argument you can make to support dog fighting. If so, give it a try. What would be your justifications for fighting dogs or supporting or condoning it? Why do you think that it is a noble legacy that you are maintaining? Man I am arguing with about 4 of you boys and you just cant hang with me. Between the four of you I would think you could come up with a strong argument to support your case and your opinions. You fellas are just out right ignorant and lame. I know this is not my beef, but let me say something to you. What is there to answer? You have your opinions and believes and we have ours. Are you able to agree to disagree? Does it matter what other people believe? Does it affect you in your everyday living? Or do you need some kind of closure to make you feel better about yourself or to make you feel more of a man? This same point has been discussed in some many boards and so many times I lost count. One thing I will tell you from experience is to read the history of these dogs. Educate yourself about there history and past. Read about the history of dog fighting and what is all about. Maybe then and only then, you will stop making ignorant assumptions as to what dog fighting is. Bottom line, you sound very uneducated, ignorant as to these dogs and breed and border line insane. G
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Post by orourkebloodlines on Mar 25, 2008 17:32:00 GMT -5
Nice try "G". I have no problem with you joining in here. The more the better. However if you do want to take part in this beef than read through the post starting around page 4 or 5. Then you will know what questions I posed and why I asked them. If you or any of the other individuals in this debate anwered the questions I asked you would be forced to answer some tough questions on this controversial topic. I was attacked first just so know. Certain individuals on here think less of my dogs because they are of UKC blood. I never attacked them on the issue of dog fighting until they made less of my dogs. I am fully informed on the entire topic of dog fighting and on APBT's game bred or other wise. Like I mentioned in a previous post which you did not read my uncle fights dogs in Virginia and I grew up around it. To answer your question yes I can accept that others on here have a different opinion on the matter of dog fighting. I cant change there mind any ways. But what I can do is state my opinions when provoked and defend my right to call my dogs pure bred APBT's and to call myself a dog man. The other individuals I have been debating on here feel other wise. Maybe you can help them out in this debate. Can you articulate a logical and intelligent argument as to why dog fighting is ok? Can you please tell me why Game bred fans feel that in APBT bred and used for any other purpose is not considered a real APBT?
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Post by south of the boarder on Mar 25, 2008 19:13:58 GMT -5
nice thread very entertaining to read arguments here i will just give my own thoughts here huh?thanks 4 starters i will mention breeding...if its bred to fight then it is pitbull if other purposes... as you folks say "watered down" already my question is to orourkebloodlines, do you breed to fight? @g i like your Boudreaux blood dogs, i am maverick fan and i X it to mayday/yellow/tombstone.not many crosses but new strain i will start hopefully be as i expect to be. @red neck bulldog i like your weight class some of my stocks are in same weight.. in sport.. gentlemen
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Post by G on Mar 25, 2008 23:37:36 GMT -5
Nice try "G". I have no problem with you joining in here. The more the better. However if you do want to take part in this beef than read through the post starting around page 4 or 5. Then you will know what questions I posed and why I asked them. If you or any of the other individuals in this debate anwered the questions I asked you would be forced to answer some tough questions on this controversial topic. I was attacked first just so know. Certain individuals on here think less of my dogs because they are of UKC blood. I never attacked them on the issue of dog fighting until they made less of my dogs. I am fully informed on the entire topic of dog fighting and on APBT's game bred or other wise. Like I mentioned in a previous post which you did not read my uncle fights dogs in Virginia and I grew up around it. To answer your question yes I can accept that others on here have a different opinion on the matter of dog fighting. I cant change there mind any ways. But what I can do is state my opinions when provoked and defend my right to call my dogs pure bred APBT's and to call myself a dog man. The other individuals I have been debating on here feel other wise. Maybe you can help them out in this debate. Can you articulate a logical and intelligent argument as to why dog fighting is ok? Can you please tell me why Game bred fans feel that in APBT bred and used for any other purpose is not considered a real APBT? Without any disrespect....... How old are you?
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GAMENESS IS THE TRUE BLOOD
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Post by GAMENESS IS THE TRUE BLOOD on Mar 26, 2008 1:24:09 GMT -5
nice thread very entertaining to read arguments here i will just give my own thoughts here huh?thanks 4 starters i will mention breeding...if its bred to fight then it is pitbull if other purposes... as you folks say "watered down" already my question is to orourkebloodlines, do you breed to fight? @g i like your Boudreaux blood dogs, i am maverick fan and i X it to mayday/yellow/tombstone.not many crosses but new strain i will start hopefully be as i expect to be. @red neck bulldog i like your weight class some of my stocks are in same weight.. in sport.. gentlemen no, he doesn't bro he's tryin to make a fool out of us sayin his UKC was bred to fight LOL you know why this started mr"orourke",of all the topics that you have to discuss or start you chose GAMENESS. man, red neck was just being brutally honest..cant talk the talk if you dont walk the walk.. thats what its all about and you mad cause tradition is what makes the pit PITS and others just BEAUTYQUEENS ;D
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Post by GAMENESS IS THE TRUE BLOOD on Mar 26, 2008 1:27:33 GMT -5
nice thread very entertaining to read arguments here i will just give my own thoughts here huh?thanks 4 starters i will mention breeding...if its bred to fight then it is pitbull if other purposes... as you folks say "watered down" already my question is to orourkebloodlines, do you breed to fight? @g i like your Boudreaux blood dogs, i am maverick fan and i X it to mayday/yellow/tombstone.not many crosses but new strain i will start hopefully be as i expect to be. @red neck bulldog i like your weight class some of my stocks are in same weight.. in sport.. gentlemen no, he doesn't bro he's tryin to make a fool out of us sayin his UKC was bred to fight LOL you know why this started mr"orourke",of all the topics that you have to discuss or start you chose GAMENESS. man, red neck was just being brutally honest..cant talk the talk if you dont walk the walk.. thats what its all about and you mad cause tradition is what makes the pit PITS and others just BEAUTYQUEENS ;D
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Post by G on Mar 26, 2008 2:10:44 GMT -5
nice thread very entertaining to read arguments here i will just give my own thoughts here huh?thanks 4 starters i will mention breeding...if its bred to fight then it is pitbull if other purposes... as you folks say "watered down" already my question is to orourkebloodlines, do you breed to fight? @g i like your Boudreaux blood dogs, i am maverick fan and i X it to mayday/yellow/tombstone.not many crosses but new strain i will start hopefully be as i expect to be. @red neck bulldog i like your weight class some of my stocks are in same weight.. in sport.. gentlemen I have been doing that cross for a while now with excellent results. Check these little bulldogs: www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=258066www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=196507The Mayday/Eli, or Tombstone/Eli are proven crosses. You get the power, explosiveness, athleticism and mouth from the Eli dogs and the gameness, stamina, durability from the Bolio/Tombstone dogs. You just need to use and select the right individuals who are a good representative of each of those lines. I like using 3/4 to 1/4 outs, both ways. Mr. Morfin was a master breeder and that is exactly the way he made his breedings. His record speaks for it self. He used "Booger ROM" as his base and foundation of the Tombstone line and Ch Shorty ROM 4xw (Boudreaux' Afogutu ROM) as his foundation of the Eli blood. www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=4999www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=22218If you study his breedings he used 3/4 to 1/4. That small 1/4 is what gave his bulldogs the "bottom end" to stay as long as needed and the 3/4 Eli, the power and mouth to win in short order. G
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Post by south of the boarder on Mar 26, 2008 8:26:21 GMT -5
nice thread very entertaining to read arguments here i will just give my own thoughts here huh?thanks 4 starters i will mention breeding...if its bred to fight then it is pitbull if other purposes... as you folks say "watered down" already my question is to orourkebloodlines, do you breed to fight? @g i like your Boudreaux blood dogs, i am maverick fan and i X it to mayday/yellow/tombstone.not many crosses but new strain i will start hopefully be as i expect to be. @red neck bulldog i like your weight class some of my stocks are in same weight.. in sport.. gentlemen I have been doing that cross for a while now with excellent results. Check these little bulldogs: www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=258066www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=196507The Mayday/Eli, or Tombstone/Eli are proven crosses. You get the power, explosiveness, athleticism and mouth from the Eli dogs and the gameness, stamina, durability from the Bolio/Tombstone dogs. You just need to use and select the right individuals who are a good representative of each of those lines. I like using 3/4 to 1/4 outs, both ways. Mr. Morfin was a master breeder and that is exactly the way he made his breedings. His record speaks for it self. He used "Booger ROM" as his base and foundation of the Tombstone line and Ch Shorty ROM 4xw (Boudreaux' Afogutu ROM) as his foundation of the Eli blood. www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=4999www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=22218If you study his breedings he used 3/4 to 1/4. That small 1/4 is what gave his bulldogs the "bottom end" to stay as long as needed and the 3/4 Eli, the power and mouth to win in short order. G i see, hope everything goes well my first attempt.i have proven in match my Banjo/chinaman/eli are my first crosses. hard to produce ACE dogs more cull but it match well ii replaced some of my line from jeep/yellow/mayday to tight carver/eli's jeep/yellow/mayday dogs good wind/agility but lack early finishing quality thats why i replace some and try carver nice stocks G i will try to use morfin dogs
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Post by Calhoun on Mar 27, 2008 15:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by G on Mar 27, 2008 19:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by Calhoun on Mar 27, 2008 20:57:00 GMT -5
Very nice! Negra is a good looking feamle... off of Chato.
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Post by pb on May 8, 2008 16:02:10 GMT -5
when the ukc 1st opened its book the dogs were match dogs tudors fighting peter was the 1st ukc match dog to be put on paper and he was a pure colby dog as well , i have diffrent things to say to alot of cats on hear but if one knocks the breed for any thing then there just ass holes i realy dont agree with these over grown dogs being called apbt i feel they should be called wht they are bullies but if its poitive then its good for the dogs and if one thinks diffrent then they need to go get a poddle or reliaze were we all stand with out dogs even some of the 1st akc stock were match dog the xpert lins consist of alot fo good old match dogs , matching dogs is a no no cause the man says so , when u see raids and dogs all f**ked up siting in nuts and looking horrible then that adds to the hype that its horrible its wht these dogs are not saying thats all they are but thats wht help make them wht the are debate it as much as u want with out the dogs past we would not have wht we have today and in some why if its not matained i the same fashion they will change indue time as the staff did and look whts being done to them know 120lbs come on guys lol o yea i know my gramas off thtas not there not the same dogs lol new breed yes thtas like saying to mutss that have shepeard in the bread there sheaperds no, alot of people are in the dogs for the green and i feel u gota be into them for the dogs them self why is grey hound racing ok and bull fighting? or even ufc same nuts right but like i said its a no no caus ethe man will get you
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Post by HJYRJYU on Jun 11, 2008 21:06:25 GMT -5
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