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Post by oldschoolpits1 on Jul 23, 2007 19:21:55 GMT -5
so im new to this site but been in the buisness for almost 14 years. and im just curious what you guys consider real pitbulls? i raise gotty greyline edge chinaman and colby dogs. im a reconized breeder with the ukc,adba,apbr and have many titles. but i was just curious and though itd be fun to see what kinda dogs you guys consider real pits this should be fun! and while your at it for the few of you that talk all this game dog stuff what do you think is the best game bred dogs? i have 100% chinaman bloodline dogs in my kennel so i no what a game bred dogg is but just want some of your opinions
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Post by ORourke Bloodlines on Jul 26, 2007 18:39:43 GMT -5
What is a real Pit Bull? I tell you this much Game bred Pit Bulls are not the original pitbulls. And the new "BULLY STYLE" Are not real pibulls. The original Pitbull was used for bull baiting in the late 1700s and on into the mid 1800s. The original or real Pit Bull if you will stood about 19 to 23 incs tall and weighed anywhere from 45lbs to 80lbs. They looked like athletes not fat people or skinny people. Ive got alot of respect for what Tom Garner did with his BloodLine. Chinamen and Frisco are some of the gamest Pits to ever be in the pit. Now the bullies you see today are another story. Hands down if you put my true Blue pit in the pit with any of these bullies he will have them in 30 min or less and Im not talking about scratching. Original pits well beat Bully style pit in any category hands down.
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Post by chezidek on Jul 29, 2007 11:36:13 GMT -5
well first off bullies are not i repeat are not bred to be game dogs they are not bred to ever see a pit they are bred to he a house dog a family dog my thing is pitbulls already have a very bad name in america and yes its because of bad people thats why people like dave wilson took apbt and amstaffs and bred them together to make pits more family dogs what kills me is people dont like bullies because they arent good in a pit i mean this is 2007 its a federal offense to have dog fighting rings in most states i dont want a fighting dog id rather have my fat bullies so i wish everyone would stop trying to compare fighting dogs to dogs that were bred to be family companions
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Post by Timex on Jul 29, 2007 18:52:49 GMT -5
well first off bullies are not i repeat are not bred to be game dogs they are not bred to ever see a pit they are bred to he a house dog a family dog my thing is pitbulls already have a very bad name in america and yes its because of bad people thats why people like dave wilson took apbt and amstaffs and bred them together to make pits more family dogs what kills me is people dont like bullies because they arent good in a pit i mean this is 2007 its a federal offense to have dog fighting rings in most states i dont want a fighting dog id rather have my fat bullies so i wish everyone would stop trying to compare fighting dogs to dogs that were bred to be family companions You sound like the guys who never had a bulldog you only had the cur ass dogs and thats why you feel that way.
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Post by ORourke Bloodline on Jul 30, 2007 18:17:42 GMT -5
Let me clarify my stance on Dog fighting. I do not fight my dogs and I do not agree with dog fighting. However I do respect the Dogman of the past because they helped create the dog we call the American Pit Bull Terrior today. The "survival of the fittest" scenario created the best breed to ever walk the earth; APBT. And to set the record straight, traditional style Pits have great tempermates and are great with familys and people. It has everything to do with how the dogs are Breed and raised. The Bully style pits are inferior in every category. They are bred for thier "bully" look first and confirmation and tempermant second. Each Dog owner has the right to choose there style of dog. But to all you Bully owners please stop acting like the Bullies are in any way supieror to the Real Pit. Can I get an AMEN?
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Post by DaNOTT on Aug 7, 2007 23:05:09 GMT -5
AMEN!!!
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Post by blueblood4 on Aug 8, 2007 16:42:17 GMT -5
HI EVER ONE THIS IS SOUTHBAYBULLIES AKA BLUEBLOOD4 WE BREED AND TRAIN ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULL DOG'S. THIS IS A WORKING BREED AND STILL R. MOST OF WHAT WE SEE TO DAY R YES NOT REAL PIT BULL'S THEY FALL UNDER BULL DOG. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING IF THATS WHAT YOU LIKE AND R LOOKING FOR. I LOVE ALL BULLY TYPES. BUT I MUST SAY IF YOUR GONNA BREED THEM LET THEM WORK THATS WHAT A PIT/ BULLY WAS BREED FOR IF ITS HOG WORK, PROTECTION , OBEDIENCE, AGILITY. MOST OF WHAT I SEE TODAY R JUST TO HEAVY AND SHORT FOR ANY TYPE OF WORKING ABILITY. BUT THEY LOOK NICE AND BULLY. AND IF YOUR IN TO SHOW THING THEY HAVE WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR. LIKE I SAID A REAL PIT CAN WORK AND R MUCH SMALLER, BUT IN THE 20 CENTURY PIT BULLS GOT UP TO 100 POUNDS AND HAD A BULLY LOOK. A STRAIN OF WHITE COLBY PIT BULLS EXISTED IN THE TWENTIES THAT PRODUCED 100 POUND MONSTERS THAT LOOK LIKE A MODERN AB. SO I WILL SAY ONE MORE TIME THEY WERE BREED TO WORK. WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF IS TWO THING;S WHY DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW GAME A DOG MIGHT BE OR USE THE WORD PIT AS IN FIGHTING DOGS. WE R JUST BRINGING DOWN THE BULLY BREED TILL ONE DAY WE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN ONE. PIT BULLY OR A BULL DOG. ONE MORE THING IN DEFENSE OF A REAL PIT BULL IF YOU LOOK UP THE FACTS A REAL PIT BULL HAS LESS RECORED ED DOG ATTACKS ON PEOPLE AND DOGS. BUT WHAT WE SEE TO DAY R BULLY CROSSES THIS TYPE OF DOG HAS MORE REPORTED ATTACKS BUT THEY CALL THEM PIT BULLS. IT'S NOT FAIR THE THE PIT BREED EACH BREED HAS SOME THING TO BRING TO THE TABLE IF IT'S LOOKS HEAD PREY DRIVE DEFIANCE DRIVE ETC. WHAT I MAY LIKE YOU WONT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A DNA TEST ON THE DOG'S THEY CALL PIT'S TODAY WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL COME BACK IN THE TEST ? I WONDER IF ANY ONE ON HERE REALLY KNOWS WHAT BREEDS OF DOG REALLY IS THE GENTIC MAKE UP OF OLD TIME REAL PIT/ BULLY DOG'S LATER................
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Post by chezidek on Aug 10, 2007 14:36:32 GMT -5
actually i have owned a couple game dogs i have had a redboy/eli male and a carver male and i still rather have my bullies where i live its not safe to have a high strung high drive gamedog my neighbors wont go for having one around here gamedogs are ok if u live in the country on a farm or so somewhere with space it takes a lot of room to have game dogs they like to work and im not where i can work my dogs thats why i choose my lazy bullies
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Post by texpitbull2 on Aug 11, 2007 17:43:38 GMT -5
www.myspace.com/texpitbull2 this is a link to my dogs page . I also have a chance blooded dog and a boodrow blooded pregnant dog . it all comes down to what you like and me for one I don't care for the short dogs , I like the old school look
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Post by tex on Aug 12, 2007 22:56:10 GMT -5
this is my chance blooded pit
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Post by bullet on Oct 21, 2007 2:08:47 GMT -5
wow this a good one bullys are bullys not pit breed down off of pits yes and they fac tthat people think an am staff anf pit crossed = wht todays bullys are totaly got the mix twisted there is def other breeds thrown in these dogs with out dought lol blueblood4 you got it twisted as well pincher was the biggest colby dog ever and he was 75 lbs tops these dogs of this size were considered catch dogs alligator was like this to along with blk jack , chezidek you shouldnt even own a game dog if thats the way you think ever lol apbts are the best breed dog ever period take it for wht its worth any dog can and will be a terror if you dont have prober control over your dog if you were not able to control your dog thats on you dont say the breed is just ,intended for farms lol all dogs should have jobs not saying all do but they should be breed for certian reasons and siting on the couch is not a good reason im shore alot fo these bullys have a lot of gentic defects no one talks about its a must at least with the apbt true apbt that is breeders openly said they culled there dogs , another thing is why breeed this dog in the way there being breed for wht reason looks apbts are breed the way there breed for certain trais and not just for the game gene ,texpitbull2 hey man i think you mean boudreaux not boodrow lol the problem is people dont understand wht these dogs are about other then wht the media portrays period and im open minded about this topic but lets not say wht they arent but say wht they are and thats american bullys not apbts!! o yea just so every one knows these are nothing more then ban dogs , but instead of being working dogs they been extreamly waterd down hears a link of a prober ban dog , know this is wht you call tight www.chimerakennels.com/index.htm
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Post by rednoselover on Oct 31, 2007 0:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by Derrick on Nov 1, 2007 20:52:38 GMT -5
I think it's all more of a personal preference on what you consider a "real" pit. To me a game dog is more of a real pit than bullies, but I still love my bullies, I know they are bulldog mixed with amstaff, but it's my personal preference and the style of dog I choose to breed. Some people like the big 110 plus pounders that stand 25 inches or taller, some like the 35 lbs game dogs.....it's just a matter of preference!
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Post by bullet on Nov 1, 2007 21:24:33 GMT -5
personal preference lol there is only one real apbt and its that the apbt the dogs you speack of are not apbts breed down from them yes but no them sorry, if some one things these dogs are the real deal then they dont understand the breed period, you know theres breed standards for a reason lol
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Post by bob on Nov 9, 2007 15:34:41 GMT -5
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